Dave Grimland

Quote or Factoid of the Moment

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I randomly add items to this page, with no attempt at consistency, but responding instead to whatever hits me at the moment.  Viewers of the page are welcome to comment directly by eMail.  I suggest only that you note your first name, and your home town/state.


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“It is the height of cultural arrogance to assume that we can change tribal societies’ leadership into American-style democracy.”

John Huntsman, Republican contender for the 2012 Republican President nomination nomination

“Everybody is ignorant, only on different subjects.”

Will Rogers


“Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction.”

Blaise Pascal, 1623-1662, Pense’es #894


“Everyone is a prisoner of his own experiences.  No one can eliminate prejudices — just recognize them.”

Edward R. Murrow, December 31, 1955


“Reports that say that something hasn’t happened are always interesting to me, because as we know, there are known knowns;  there are things we know we know.  We also know there are known unknowns;  that is to say we know there are some things we do not know.  But there are also unknown unknowns — the ones we don’t know we don’t know.”

Donald Rumsfeld, Secretary of Defence, press briefing, Feb. 12, 2002


“There are as many ways to pray as there are blades of grass.”

Roxanne Bighorn, Ft. Peck Reservation Tribal Council Member, March 2007


 “Dave, no religion stays pure longer than about 20 minutes after its founder dies.”

From a 1975 personal conversation with a Quaker elder…


 “Man is kind enough when he is not excited by religion.”  

Mark Twain:  “A Horse’s Tale”


“Mesopotamia?…Yes…oil…irrigation…   We must have Mesopotamia.  Palestine…Yes…the Holy Land…Zionism… We must have Palestine.  Syria…Hmmm…   What’s there in Syria?      Let the French have that.”

Recorded by historian Arnold Toynbee, present as a young clerk at the Versailles Peace conference in January 1919, recounting years later the informal comments of British Prime Minister Lloyd George thinking out loud one day.  Cited in Margaret MacMillan, “Paris 1919,” p. 381


In 1797, the United States entered into a treaty with Tripoli, in which it was declared:

“As the government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion;  as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquillity [sic] of Musselmen…it is declared…that no pretext arising from religious opinion shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.”

A clause from a treaty ending the war with the Barbary pirates.  It written under George Washington’s presidency, it was ratified by Congress under President John Adams and signed by Adams.

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Written by davegrimland

December 30, 2007 at 1:38 am

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